There should be ONE category.....people.

A great American tradition, killing.

FIFA, if the majority of our all-knowing elected representatives wants to eliminate capital punishment in MD, so be it. But don't tell me there should be exceptions for the murder of "special" people.

Agree.

I didn't say that M., I find Miller silly in this instance. I am speaking only to the American tradition of killing. We excel at it for the No. 1 country in world, don't you think?

What makes a teacher more important then the local automotive sales person, postal worker or firefighter?

You are absolutely right, M. Sullivan. Teachers are already in the category of getting raises at a time when so many have lost their jobs. People are people and all lives are equally precious.

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What makes you think legislators aren't on the list. See if you can get into a legislative meeting without passing security well armed to impose the death penalty on you!

When was the last time in America, the land of the tradition of killing, did 100,000 die? Or 500,000? Or millions?
More FifiMath. Forgetting Cambodia, China, Germany, Sudan, Libya, Mexico, 40,000 in 6 years, Iran, Bosnia, Mali, Afghanistan, Nigeria where ethnic cleansing is taking place, Pakistan, Ivory Coast, Rwanda where in about 100 days up to 1,000,000 people were slaughtered.

I could go on and on but these facts will mean nothing to those who make stupid idiotic false claims.

Other than to the stupid idiot Joe Sanchez who can only insult at every opportunity in-between doing copy and paste, we have nothing to be proud of when it comes to killing in this country. Comparing us to that list makes us look good JoeBlob. You ignorant fool.

Again you are proven the lying foolish idiot Fifi and you get your panties in a huge wad. It is a funny thing to watch.

And Fifi, if you can find a comment by me that is insulting to a poster NOT YOU, Steve or Frank, please post it. You will not because you cannot! I ONLY do such in REPLY to the same. I will later on post again a listing of your comments that are initially ignorant name calling as is your usual habit anyone here can see and knows.

Copy Paste shows you to be wrong and that is why you whine about it so often. EXCUSE me for actually reading and supporting what i say and post. Too bad you cannot support most of your lies.

Joey, do me a favor, don't post on my comments and I won't post on yours either. You are an abysmal waste of my time. All you do is insult. Stay away from me, you are a pathetic stalker and stupid fool.

Oh, by the way, we killed over 600,000 of our own during our Civil War.

First Frank was the surrender and defeat dog, now Fifi does not care to be corrected on his wrong conclusions.

The White Flag of surrender is now flying over Fifi's dog house. Not a chance Fido, when you are wrong I am going to point it put and i fully expect you to do the same. If you can do it without being ignorant would be a advancement in your life.

Wave that white flag of surrender Fifi. It is all you have little boy. No rational debate forthcoming form you is there?

Sanchez, FIFA: Let's dial it down a notch or two. Name calling (Fifi, idiot, sissy) are not only distracting and annoying to other readers the repetition of it is bordering on abusive. It's not important who started it, escalated it etc. What is important is that it ends. Disagree but do not be disagreeable.

Bryan, that is a very fair comment. I get extraordinarily irritated when the comment to my reasonable post ends with "I could go on and on but these facts will mean nothing to those who make stupid idiotic false claims".

The Patch tolerates stuff like that and does not expect someone to respond? Disappointing at the very least. I only respond in kind to statements like those of Sanchez who was banned when he used the name Joe. You may pay attention, but many of your editors do not. I stated I would not respond to Joe/Sanchez and what do I get, another insult. Pathetic.

FIFA: I'm asking for mutual disarming and for everyone to act like adults. The rules are simple, dear Patch readers: Do not insult others (ie: Fifi, Sissy, Idiot, Joeblob, etc.). Do not respond to insults. Be nice. As I tell my son, each of us is responsible for our own actions no matter what anyone else does. Remember, the person you disagree with is likely motivated by their own set of strongly held beliefs. One may disagree with another user but the repetition of insults and sniping is unbecoming. This doesn't require any discussion or action other than everyone moving in a positive direction from this point on.

It is funny M.

Joe/Sanchez has been doing this act for months. He copies copyrighted material and pastes it as his own against Patch rules, then he insults everyone he can find and then pleads "make an argument". Bryan watches the crap that goes on but Emily lets it go on. Anyone hear double standard? it means be nice on Bryan's articles or don't comment on them at all. Bad for Bryan if no one comments on his articles I guess.

Then you have posters like Balt Observer who are allowed to post? Go read those comments! Absurd.

C'mon OT, say it ain't so! One word, DeSantis.

This has to be one of the funniest threads on patch in a while. Fifa complaining about name calling and a moderator coming to his rescue. If i could only count the number of his abusive (now deleted) posts. Too funny.

The only thing funnier would be if this was Frank.

Looking at the list of who is "ahead" of us, I am not very proud of our statistic. Of course, your number only includes those we are killing in the United States. We have done a pretty good job killing others in the last 12 years in other places?

Wrong. A shotgun was found in the trunk.

Wrong as usual Steve. Or just more of your standard misinformation but either way even NBC has admitted to misleading the American public by "mistakenly" reporting that the Bushmaster rifle was used inside the school and confirmed that it was, in fact, found in the car along with a shotgun.

JustABill - the report you reference was dead wrong. It was Pete Williams mouthing off way too soon. Just google Newtown coroner's report and learn the truth.

You are following an urban legend repeated by the right wing over and over. It was a Bushmaster that killed the kids.

FIFA, there is a video taken from a Police Helo showing the Bushmaster beeing taken from the trunk of a car and cleared by an officer on scene. If this had been placed in this non-police car for safe keeping, it would have been strange. There were handgund recovered inside, as well as a shotgun in the car. None of these were leagally obtained by the shooter.

Bob - it is urban legend. It amazes me in this day and age of internet technology that this continues to happen. It was a shotgun removed from the trunk. See all links below.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html

The post below shows a story that initially said that an AR-15 was not used. The author apologizes and took down her erroneous story.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/12/27/story-retraction-authorities-say-newtown-shooter-did-not-use-assault-weapon-n1475045

You can google Newtown coroner's report and find the same all over the place. I don't know what else to tell you Bob.

The last person executed in MD was Wesley Eugene Baker on Dec 5, 2005. He was convicted of murdering a grandmother in front of her 4 and 6 year old grandchildren in the Westview Mall parking lot during a robbery. Appeals had lasted 13 years. I believe the last person sentenced to death was Lawrence Borchardt, convicted in 2000, who died in prison from Diabetes and Liver disease.

M., who was the last person found innocent in Maryland that was on Death Row at the time of his innocence?

The only one I know of in MD is Kirk Bloodsworth, who was pardoned in 1993 after DNA evidenced proved him innocent.

Your memory or research is good, or both. But there are many more like him in other states, some have been pardoned, some we don't know about yet, but you and I both know they are there.. Thus my position, just lock them up, life without parole and move on.

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Good, let's stick them all down in Mom's basement with the "Stank". See how long he keeps posting.

He hasn't been brought to trial yet. Another political mess Obama has gotten us into with no other than Russia.

Kill 'em all Penny. Just don't make a mistake, your Creator will judge you. He knows your errors. Are you the god who determines who should die? Please tell us.

Only in the twisted liberal mindset can someone fret over the possibility of error in the application of the death penalty while simultaneously approving of abortion.

Great point Chris W...

And only in the right wing mindset can one oppose abortion and oppose mandatory contraception coverage for employer provided insurance which would reduce the number of abortions. Due to "moral/religious" grounds. As supported by the right wing was abstinence only education.

It's a small minority of the right that is against contraception. You or I may disagree, but at least they are consistent.

We will not agree on this issue at all. You have accepted abortion as killing a human. Pro-choice people do not. Neither of us will change the other's mind.

Thanks to those on both sides of the issue for your good comments. Have learned much and folks from both sides have provided good reasons!!!
Looks like another quality thread about to turn into nastiness and name calling by the FIFA, Ike and Frank patrol. A good zinger is ok and fun to read - but to you three, the comments you make reflect more on you than those you try to humiliate. I hope as you mature, you find something more positive to do with your lives then patrolling a local website 24/7 in an effort to make you feel positive about yourselves. You need to find something positive in yourselves.

Funny how you show your bias RMI. Must be in your nature?

One thing is certain FIFA, if no action is taken in both cases, a person will live.

In my mind, something with a heart beat and brain activity is alive.

Frank, dont tell me that your about to equate eating meat with infanticide. You can't be that stupid.... Oh.. Forget I said that.

An you are apparently ok with killing the innocent ones, but not those convicted of murder. How interesting.

Too easy, Sarah Palin has neither.

Sorry Chris, the "bait" into a debate on abortion just isn't going to happen. There are 40 years worth of "debate" on the subject and nothing new exists.

Not interested in debating the merits or lack of merits of abortion. I am simply pointing out the inconsistency of the positions. The fact that you two see no moral equivilancy is quite telling.

Chris, the ground has been covered over and over again for 40 years. Goad as you wish, it is not happening.

Chris - thanks for your comments. I respect your stance, although I do disagree - but understand your position and your position does have merit. I believe another poster EVETS said the same - and those positions are to be respected. Won't try to change your mind - but your comments in support of your positions are powerfull.
Not much you can do with your buddy FIFA and his cronies. Very hard to have a discussion with folks like them. They were all excited and thought they were watching President Obama's address earlier this week. Unfortunately, someone put in a tape of Richard Pryor's Mudbone act. Moms had to come down in the basement and tell them they were watching the wrong thing. They thought Miss Rudolf was the Secretary of State. It all ended well as Moms made a meat loaf for them.

The hounds are on the move.

fifa..4 bait statements..

Frank..4 bait statements..

RMI, i appreciate your comment.

The sad thig is that some folks can't see past blind ideology.

I think the death penalty needs to be preserved, however, the bar should be very very high. By the same token, I don't feel that abortion should be completely illegal, but neither do I feel it should be used as a form of birth control.

My position is .... Complicated.

"Did you wonder why?"

Sympathy for the hospice-dweller, perhaps?

Bait statement..

Paging the "Stank" and Fido - diaper blowout cleanup on aisle 3. LMAO

No amount of repeating is going to clean up your fetid arse, "Stank".

1ke...bait statement..

Are you really going to break down and weep like poor Fido does, Ike?

Bait statement..

Also flagged as inappropriate 1ke..

Bait statement..

Bait statement....

Bait statement...they don't pertain to the topic..

BAIT STATEMENT...^

Never have. That said, that is why you would not be allowed to sit on a jury considering capital punishment or most any other criminal offense. You clearly would seek revenge and emotionally I understand that. However, that would not bring back your loved one, would it? MIght make you feel better.

Toughest job in corrections has to be the executioner. He/she kills people for a living because it is his/her job. I couldn't do that.

I have. A brother who was mentally ill was beaten badly and died a month later from his injuries. His attackers were never caught, therefore never prosecuted. But still, no amount of additional carnage will ever bring him back.

...Bait statement...

Just pointing out bait statements Frank...
Bait statement...
Stop making them and I'll stop pointing them out...pretty simple..

I guess Bryan told Buck to go fishing? A whole new meaning to copypasta? Just bizarre.

fifa ...bait statement...

That's another bait statement Frank...

I cannot speak to the veracity of the information from the pro death penalty website, but those cases were the best I could do for now...

Thank you Evets, The knowledge and effort shared in your posting is refreshing..

Frank

http://www.newsobserver.com/2009/10/16/143870/state-forced-to-free-20-violent.html

Frank, you should be very happy now. You have been shown several.

"Frank" is out of his element if he actually has to attempt to be intellectual.

Frank's working on a come back.

Just show me one.... Er, I mean more than one..... Er... Well wait let me think about it.

Frank, it looks like you got the one to make you happy.

Me? I am very unhappy. I will lock my doors and hug up to the ole Street Sweeper. A 72 year-old blooded animal is on the loose.

Bait statement and bait video link Frank...not good..

Buck - would not work. The family would always be in peril by the family of the wanna be gansta.
Glad you are getting your digs on the crew. Probably won't hear from them for a while as moms is baking them cookies.

It seems that there really are no viable solutions to dealing with convicted murder's...life without parole could very well be viewed as more harsh than death itself.
Probably the reason that this will remain a perpetual issue that human beings will never be able to satisfactorily deal with...no one wins either way...all are losers...cost of being human I guess..

Evets - the other problem I see is a society issue. Here we have a cold killer, who had no problem with murdering an innocent victim(s). Even though - the killer knows the consequences of killing someone would take their freedom forever - they did not care enough about their life, or the lives of their family to not commit this/these murders.
So, the sentence is life in prison. Ok, so you have a killer with no hope of parole who committed heinous acts while free. Should we as society be forced to care for this person for life - and put our guards, our staff and other prisoners at risk? What would happen if the prisoner kills a guard? Is protection of the society more important? Should we put even more people at risk in order for a convicted cold blooded killer to live?

There is absolutely no point in keeping an incorrigible felon deemed beyond rehabilitation alive. Such a person has absolutely no worth and is likely to cause more harm and suffering.

Yes, Mr. B.O., the Crusades and the Inquisition, too.

Evets, I have read your other posts on the matter, and frankly I can't fathom why you would be opposed to the death penalty, particularly since you experienced the murder of a family member yourself. In my view, some people are hopelessly incorrigible and beyond redemption and have given up their right to be among the living. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

C'mon, B.O., surely you of all people know righteousness when you read it. Be thankful that it really exists.

Resignation is like that, even in my more limited experience with murder, death and dying.

The righteous know and believe in the mantra of an eye for an eye, Ike.

Evets - fair enough. You have valid comments. I appreciate your views. Not an easy issue.

Pointless bait statement 1ke..

How can a christian:

Support abortion
Fight in a war
Gamble in a casino
Commit adultery

Come on, let's be serious. There are many things Christians do that are not very Christian.

How about the Crusades and the Inquisition?

Behold, "Frank" reduced to mumbling incoherently. In other words, what he does best.

Bait statement again Frank...

Reduced to bait statements frank...have a good evening..

You must not look at your own comments Frank.

Another bait comment Frank... your count is not correct..

1ke...bait statement...slow learner..

At this point Frank...I would have to say that you are the " master baiter"...
...bait comment...

It doesn't take much of a push to get you to dive into filth, Bucky...

Oh, yeah, yeah... "They gang up on me and I just don't know what comes over me..."

.....bait statement 1 k e...don't make em ..I won't point em out..pretty simple..

.....bait statement....I like the thread...not the baiters..you are working toward a master as well...

Thanks for the definition FIFA... describes a very large percentage of comments made by you and crew...weather they violate the fine line of Patch policy or not...
I will continue to point them out as they occur...have a great day!
If your comments pertain to the thread topic I'll gladly respond in kind..

What is worse it is not even original. Bizarre. You have become inconsequential. Too bad.

Bait statement...back to topic FIFA..

B.uck A.s I.nsane T.oddler

Come on FIFA...Bait statement...you can do better...

Surrender by bait statement at that...

I believe it may be time for a contest to come up with what the acronym B.A.I.T means. I might be willing to put up a prize or two for the best one. Any takers?

FIFA.. 1 bait statement...
Frank...2 bait statements...
This thread is really going places...

Buck Always Is Trans......................formative?

FIFA...made another bait statement...starting to look like chum again...

Bad Act Is Telling.

Proving yet again that although they chime in constantly, they have nothing of substance to say.

Get in line Chris W, you are a big part of the crowd.

Well worth the hour..

You didn't watch it Frank...or you would never have made this bait statement..

I listened to 24 minutes of this expose. Man, you have got it going on!

Yo, everybody needs to listen to this. I swear it.

I think he means "listen", Frank.

Grow a scraggly beard and go into business. Do you think Bucky is one of these people? I wonder who cuts his hair.

More bait.

Negative, tier three leader.

Frank the Nagger.

Oops, Buck has already deleted his obscenity, but Buck it is not gone. It is still recorded for all to see. Next up is Joe.

Bait statement FIFA..

Aw Buck, those who want to see your vulgar obscene comment can go here, seeing that you kept to your favorite topice.

http://eldersburg.patch.com/users/buck-harmon/comments

Try to hide from the Patch Editors Buck? Doesn't work. Keep it clean.

And here comes a first time poster from Dundalk Patch. I wonder who it really is? We will figure it out, doesn't take very long at all. Welcome Delgado to the Patch, we look forward to hearing more from your highness.

The site is currently being controlled...baiters are being exposed for who they really are...at this point the ball is in the Patch court...

I hope you are not Buzz? Confess up there skinny. Or are you Joe/Sanchez? I am betting it is Joe. Did you get banned in the last 39 minutes? Wow.

The rabid female dog fifi is a flaming nagger.

The rabid female dog fifi is a huge flaming nagger.

bully bait statement Frank

As Pogo said, "We have found the enemy and he is us". Buck, for the last two days after being reprimanded for attacking individuals you took it upon yourself to begin with this "bait" garbage incessantly. You were ridiculed for it, Pogo was right. Then you added "master" to it on your on. Pogo was right.

Have a good night Buck, I promise not to bother you again for at least 24 hours. The Patch administrators have a difficult job between obscenities (like you deleted) and ridicule like Frank, 1ke, and I hit you with. Ridicule I believe is the most fiercely protected of all free speech the founders of the Constitution invisioned, caustic, rude, but with a point almost all of the time.

No more lecture, as you somewhat said, duck, here come the spears at me now.

Joe Delgado, reborn on the Patch 1/28/2013. Happy Birthday Joe Delgado.

What is it you are suggesting, Mr. Frank?

Frank is a nagger.

Frank..3 snipe bait statements

The nagger seems to never leave his keyboard, has no family or friends. Has very creepy infatuations with certain posters who he terribly misses when they are on vacation. He seems to pine for my comments. 24/7 Frank the nagger bugger is here waiting for his only "friends" to show up so he won't be so isolated from society.
I know quadriplegics that have more of a life and get around more than you nagger bugger Frank.

When/if this site becomes more civil and tolerant of others opinions more will post. Few will with the naggers like Frank 1ke and the rabid female dog Fifi.

They await on their perches for a new comment and poster to attack. Quite sick animals.

oooohhhh...that's bait, JoeBlob....oooohh...Mr. Sears, what he said! oooohhh

Don't forget to put on your space ranger helmet when you type that.

snipe bait statement1ke...

bully snipe bait statement 1ke...

False equivalency, no one supporting LWOP endorses releasing those so sentenced. LWOP means just that.

PS - Chris W you are very good at looking at the abuse from only one side. Interesting?

Your outrage has to do with the release of felons convicted of capital crimes, I see.

So the solution has to do with making sure that life without parole is life without parole in a society where state-sanctioned cold-blooded murder of its citizens is not practiced.

Anonymous posters are immune to abuse as their real identity is protected for some odd reason...this is the flaw with patch that promotes the creation of perpetual bully snipe posters. ...Patch becomes their playground...

Patch is committed to open expression from what I can see. The conflict between the rigid progressive stance of some posters and the rigid reactionary stance of others frustrates you. Additionally, the difference between forms of pettiness when one group gnaws at the other galls you.

These are both part of the new online conversation format. Quit whining.

1ke...cowardly snipe bully statement...

It's a virtual world, one where you do not rule just because you are extreme and emotionally volatile and beat your kids.

My so-called "real" identity is none of your blessed business and does not pertain to this virtual interaction in the least.

I do not participate here in order to bolster my personal standing in any so-called "real" community or to toot my own horn or sell garbage like the paranoid wannabe video you posted about the Newtown murders. Tier 3. Take me to your leader.

You are a Patch bred cyber bully 1ke...a cowardly cyber bully at that...

The bully crowd. More interested in smart Alec remarks than actual dialog.

Brought to you by patch.

Would you continue the bully snipe bait statements if you used your real name..?
Thats the real question here....you continue to prove my point... !ke... the function of an insecure coward....nothing more...

Buck, keep in mind that Frank is a shut-in who is pre-diabetic if not full blown and jobless. This forum is his only outlet for his fat aggression.

Applause.

Frank are you 12? Insecure?

Patch has devolved to a site that seems to promote or host cyber bullies...their policies are enforced randomly which seem to add fuel to the continuous insults....in fact we have been told that they don't have to enforce them at all them if they choose not to...
A circus full of clowns with Patch administrators as the ring leaders...sad..